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June 8

Jax templates failing WP:NENAN (3th cluster)

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The result of the discussion was delete Days Away, Jessie James, And One, The Ghost Inside, Jamey Jasta, Yuka Honda, and Disarmonia Mundi, keep Zola Jesus, Crime in Stereo, Joi, and no consensus for the rest. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:46, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Template:Days Away (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Endwell (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Lower Than Atlantis (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:The Blue Van (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:And One (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Jessie James (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Audio Bullys (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Crime in Stereo (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Disarmonia Mundi (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:The Flatliners (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:The Ghost Inside (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Flesh-n-Bone (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Yuka Honda (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Jasmine Guy (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ihsahn (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:ICS Vortex (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Jamey Jasta (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ion Dissonance (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Zola Jesus (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Joi (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN The Banner talk 23:30, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

The good news: I am finished checking the 1290 templates created by Jax. The Banner talk 23:41, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
LOL. Now we just have to wait for Jax to create enough articles to save as many as he can and notify Frietjes so he can proxy for him at TfD and add the articles to the nominated templates. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 02:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
When he starts producing quality articles, I have no problem with that. Otherwise: the axe! But I leave it to you to keep Jax on his toes. The Banner talk 04:04, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
I would appreciate it if you would use my talk page if you have a problem with my edits instead of attacking me at TfD. I'm sure it's shocking that I actually have an opinion that is independent of yours and Jax. Frietjes (talk) 15:36, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
  • keep the ones that have enough links, delete the ones that don't. it should be a simple counting exercise to figure out which one had enough links, but was still nominated, which ones now have enough links after linking EPs and songs that were unlinked. Frietjes (talk) 17:40, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment. These templates have varying elements and qualifications going for them. Some of these are worth keeping, while others are not. I would probably say that templates worth keeping would include those with more than one section, such as Zola Jesus and Audio Bullys. Templates worth deleting would include those which detail thin discographies, or which only host studio albums, such as the templates of Jessie James and Disarmonia Mundi. I would also discourage templates that feature partial or full discographies of other music projects, as well as templates that focus on a singular musician without an actual solo career. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 06:30, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
    • WP:NENAN asks for at least 5 relevant links towards the subject. Excluded from those relevant links are in effect the backlink to the subject itself, "related items" (most of the time the linked item is not directly relevant to the subject, like record companies or other bands). Links other bands are also seen as not relevant to the subject (those bands should have their own nav box when enough relevant links available) The Banner talk 20:53, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Invisibl Skratch Piklz

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:32, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Template:Invisibl Skratch Piklz (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on the name of Invisibl Skratch Piklz The Banner talk 23:17, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Paweł Jaroszewicz

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:31, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Template:Paweł Jaroszewicz (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name The Banner talk 23:15, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Andy Hurley

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:30, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Template:Andy Hurley (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name. The Banner talk 23:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Ian & Sylviaedit

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The result of the discussion was move Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:23, 19 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Ian & Sylvia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

A strange mix up of solo works and band works. Unfortunately, I don't see any works of the duo itself so fails WP:NENAN The Banner talk 23:10, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

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Template:Don Devoreedit

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The result of the discussion was move Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:13, 19 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Don Devore (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name. The Banner talk 23:06, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

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Template:Zach Hilledit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:25, 22 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Zach Hill (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Only four albums (?) on his own name, of which three have no article. The Banner talk 23:03, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • delete, no band/project with critical mass beyond Hella, which has a navbox. Frietjes (talk) 16:52, 9 June 2013 (UTC)reply
  • Delete per nom. Creating a navbox for an artist with little or no solo career just leads to navbox clutter on the articles to which it is attached. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:38, 21 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Anthony Greenedit

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The result of the discussion was move Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:05, 19 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Anthony Green (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Just two albums on his own name. The Banner talk 23:01, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

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Template:Ace Endersedit

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The result of the discussion was move Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:55, 19 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Ace Enders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name. The Banner talk 22:59, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

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Template:Niclas Engelinedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:09, 22 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Niclas Engelin (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name. The Banner talk 22:58, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • Delete per nominator. Artist navboxes should be reserved for those with significant solo careers, because otherwise we risk articles on bands (and their recordings) being cluttered with a navbox for each band member. That sort of clutter just impedes navigation. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:44, 21 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Steve DiGiorgioedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:08, 22 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Steve DiGiorgio (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name?? The Banner talk 22:57, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • Delete per nominator. Artist navboxes should be reserved for those with significant solo careers, because otherwise we risk articles on bands (and their recordings) being cluttered with a navbox for each band member. That sort of clutter just impedes navigation. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:44, 21 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:AJ Cheekedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:41, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:AJ Cheek (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name. The Banner talk 22:53, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

After Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AJ Cheek and a speedy deletion, the artist belonging to this template has no article anymore. The Banner talk 10:53, 9 June 2013 (UTC)reply
weak delete or reformat as a template for Revive. Frietjes (talk) 16:59, 9 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Martin Westerstrandedit

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The result of the discussion was move Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:41, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Martin Westerstrand (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name. The Banner talk 22:52, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

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Template:Dan the Automatoredit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:36, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Dan the Automator (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fuzzy template not making clear what belongs to the musician. With just three clear relevant links fails WP:NENAN The Banner talk 16:17, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • delete, if we navigated by production credits there would be quite a bit, but we don't ... Frietjes (talk) 17:18, 9 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Chad Ackermanedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:33, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Chad Ackerman (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name The Banner talk 15:02, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • delete, nothing significant outside the intersection with Austrian Death Machine. Frietjes (talk) 15:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Mark Boalsedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Mark Boals (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Just three albums on his own name The Banner talk 15:02, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • delete, no single project with critical mass. Frietjes (talk) 15:09, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Fuzzy templatesedit

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The result of the discussion was delete and move as suggested. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:13, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Uli Kusch (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Roland Grapow (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Greg Anderson (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Attila Csihar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fuzzy template not making clear what belongs to the musician. No own works? The Banner talk 15:01, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • delete Uli Kusch, Roland Grapow, Greg Anderson (all major projects have navboxes); move Attila Csihar to template:Aborym and reformat. Frietjes (talk) 15:19, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Record labelsedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:06, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Indianola Records (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Centricity Music (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Smallman Records (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Carved Records (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No need for nav boxes on record labels containing all signed bands and issued albums The Banner talk 14:31, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • Delete all These are ones that have no reason to be. Record label artists change regularly and other than the label there is no relationship between each artist and their releases. Created only to give the artist and album articles a navbox in an overreaching attempt to meet WP:ANOEP because the artists listed only have a couple of releases. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:45, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Anders Nyströmedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:22, 22 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Anders Nyström (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name The Banner talk 13:46, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

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Template:Sebastian Komoredit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:02, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Sebastian Komor (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Unclear what solo projects/aliases belongs to him and relevant for a nav box about the musician The Banner talk 13:25, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • delete, not enough core links under any band/project. Frietjes (talk) 15:07, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Andy LaPleguaedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Andy LaPlegua (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Unclear if he as any items on his own name. The Banner talk 13:22, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

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Jax templates failing WP:NENAN (2nd cluster)edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Monie Love, MC Shan, Juke Kartel, and Long Distance Calling no consensus for Linda Chung, Dan Hill, and October Tide. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:46, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Juke Kartel (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Monie Love (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:MC Shan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Dan Hill (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Linda Chung (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Long Distance Calling (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:October Tide (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN The Banner talk 13:07, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • keep Linda Chung (added Love Love Love), Dan Hill (plenty of charting material); delete Monie Love, weak delete MC Shan, Juke Kartel; indifferent October Tide, Long Distance Calling. Frietjes (talk) 14:59, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Juice Crewedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:16, 22 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Juice Crew (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on their own name The Banner talk 13:03, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • Delete per nominator. Artist navboxes should be reserved for those with significant careers under their own naqme, because otherwise we risk articles on bands (and their recordings) being cluttered with a navbox for each band member. That sort of clutter just impedes navigation. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:46, 21 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Sonny Throckmortonedit

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:37, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Sonny Throckmorton (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Not a clue why this was kept after the first nomination, as there were and still are only four relevant links. The Banner talk 11:40, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • keep. actually !voted delete the last time, but re-reading the last debate, I can see the merits in keeping this one. there are more charting singles which could be potentially added as well. Frietjes (talk) 14:40, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
    • If, if, if. But we still have only 4 relevant links. The Banner talk 14:46, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
      • WP:DEADLINE Frietjes (talk) 14:47, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
        • That is about articles, here we are talking about a template that does not have enough links. As Jax is collecting failed templates in his own workspace, there is indeed no deadline to create extra articles but also no need to keep this insufficient template in the encyclopaedia. The Banner talk 15:29, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
          • don't worry, I will create one more article in the next seven days. shall we invite the editors who commented in the last discussion to comment again? Frietjes (talk) 17:13, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
            • No need for that, ms. Frietjes, you already give so much support to Jax that it is giving me the idea of helping to circumvent a topic ban. The Banner talk 22:40, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Todd Smithedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:33, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Todd Smith (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Just two items under his own name (i.e. El-Creepo!) The Banner talk 11:32, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • delete once you remove the intersection with Dog Fashion Disco (which has a navbox), the next largest project is Polkadot Cadaver. however, since Polkadot Cadaver is a continuation of Dog Fashion Disco, that content could be merged there. then, there is very little left, as indicated in the nomination. Frietjes (talk) 14:45, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Fiona McDonaldedit

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The result of the discussion was move Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Fiona McDonald (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on her own name. The Banner talk 11:31, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

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Template:Maybe free mediaedit

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The result of the discussion was relisting on WP:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 June 22Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:07, 22 June 2013 (UTC)reply

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Template:Bill Brufordedit

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The result of the discussion was keep Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:49, 22 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Bill Bruford (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Seems to fail WP:NENAN as he only recorded one album on his own name. The Banner talk 11:08, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • keep, recorded more than one album under his own name (see Bill Bruford#Solo career), and the other projects are very closely related, especially the duo work. Frietjes (talk) 14:37, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
    • Bill Bruford led his own band in the late 1970s, called simply "Bruford", what means that it are recording by the band, not by Bill Bruford himself. Perhaps this template can be reworked to give an overview of all ensembles he played in. The Banner talk 15:32, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
  • Keep and rework as there is also Earthworks (band) which Bruford also led. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:52, 21 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Warp Recordsedit

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The result of the discussion was move Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:21, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Warp Records (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No need for a nav box on record labels listing all albums and bands The Banner talk 11:03, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

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Template:Jerry Roushedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Jerry Roush (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name The Banner talk 11:02, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • delete, the major band is Sky Eats Airplane, which already has a navbox. Frietjes (talk) 14:29, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Ivan Moodyedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Ivan Moody (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name The Banner talk 11:01, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • delete, all the bands with significant content already have navboxes, once you subtract the intersection, there is very little left. Frietjes (talk) 14:28, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Chris Robinsonedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Chris Robinson (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Seems to fail WP:NENAN, unless the "New Earth Mud band members" (background band??) are important enough. The Banner talk 10:53, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • delete, the notability here is the connection with The Black Crowes and Chris Robinson Brotherhood. some of the content could be potentially merged with Chris Robinson Brotherhood in a related section. Frietjes (talk) 14:26, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Dave Witteedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Dave Witte (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN. Nothing on his own name The Banner talk 10:52, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

  • delete, anything missing could be potentially merged with Burnt by the Sun and/or Municipal Waste. Frietjes (talk) 14:24, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply
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Template:Brady Sealsedit

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Brady Seals (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Fails WP:NENAN as only three of his four albums have their own articles and none of his singles. The songs of a band he played in are not relevant for a nav box nor is another band member. The Banner talk 10:30, 8 June 2013 (UTC)reply

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Jax templates failing WP:NENANedit

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:48, 22 June 2013 (UTC)reply

Template:Johnny Duncan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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Template:Peter Schilling (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Stereo MCs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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